Thursday, June 17, 2010

The Argument of "Better Not to Have Been"

You don't have a cynical view of the "animal rights" people. They care more about animals than people. Here is my proof...

Here is a bit from a NY Times opinion piece by Peter Singer, the philosopher who is the main spokesman for "animal rights". He is selling the idea that people shouldn't reproduce because it is "cruel" to have babies.
South African philosopher David Benatar, author of a fine book with an arresting title: “Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence.” One of Benatar’s arguments trades on something like the asymmetry noted earlier. To bring into existence someone who will suffer is, Benatar argues, to harm that person, but to bring into existence someone who will have a good life is not to benefit him or her. Few of us would think it right to inflict severe suffering on an innocent child, even if that were the only way in which we could bring many other children into the world. Yet everyone will suffer to some extent, and if our species continues to reproduce, we can be sure that some future children will suffer severely. Hence continued reproduction will harm some children severely, and benefit none.

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So why don’t we make ourselves the last generation on earth? If we would all agree to have ourselves sterilized then no sacrifices would be required — we could party our way into extinction!
In short, he is laying down a persuasive argument for people to die out. What he doesn't tell you is that he wants to free up the space for his beloved animals and all their "rights". The guy is a monster. He would rather kill humans than lab rats!

If you think I misunderstood his piece, he has written a follow-up piece to "clarify" the positions he put forward in the earlier piece:
But “Last Generation?” isn’t a piece about overpopulation or environmental destruction, and it makes no assumptions about whether developed countries can cut down on consumption. It just isn’t about that question at all. It asks a deeper question, one not dependent on the environmental constraints on our planet, nor on the number of people now on Earth. Even if there were only 1 million humans on this planet, all living at the level of an average citizen of, say, Switzerland, we could still ask whether it would be a good thing to have children in order to continue the species.
Sure... Peter Singer claims to be pro-human and claims to be "misunderstood". He makes this statement:
This brings me to the second common misunderstanding found in the comments. I was surprised by how many readers assumed that my answer to the title question of my essay was “Yes.” Perhaps they stopped reading before they got to the last paragraph, in which I say that I think that life is, for most people, worth living, and that a world with people in it is better than one without any sentient beings in it.
But the fact of the matter is that he values animals over humans and has a dim view of "human rights". For all his effusive claims to "love humans" he keeps coming back to this point:
These issues do matter. Even if relatively few people engage in ethical thinking before deciding whether to reproduce, the decisions are important for those who do. And since public policies affect the birthrate, we ought to be giving some thought to whether it is, other things being equal, good for there to be fewer people. Of course, in our present environmental crisis other things are not equal, but the underlying question of the value of bringing human beings into the world should still play a role in decisions that affect the size of future generations.
From Wikipedia, here is some text about Singer's book Animal Liberation:
Published in 1975, Animal Liberation has been cited as a formative influence on leaders of the modern animal liberation movement. The central argument of the book is an expansion of the utilitarian idea that 'the greatest good of the greatest number' is the only measure of good or ethical behaviour. Singer argues that there is no reason not to apply this to other animals. He introduced and popularized the term "speciesism", which was originally coined by Richard D. Ryder, to describe the practice of privileging humans over other animals.
My response to this line of thinking is that if it merely a utilitarian calculation in which no species is privileged, then all higher forms of life would be "voted off the planet" because the domains of Archaea and Eubacteria outnumber the Protista, Fungi, Plantae, and Animalia by thousands to one. And they outnumber the Animalia by billions to one. And they outnumber humans by billions of billions of billions to one. So we get voted off the planet under Peter Singer's "ethics".

Personally I don't think I have to defer to insects. I respect them. But they have no rights that supersede mine. And anything simpler than insects doesn't even register in my "ethical" calculations.

3 comments:

Unknown said...

How easy it is to become out of balance. I was watching an old episode of Star Trek The Next Generation recently and noted the expression; Enslaving animals for food. I thought that the idea that animals could be considered slaves to be rather odd. I don't believe in the way some are treated and I think animal cruelty is wrong, but I don't think there is any other purpose for cattle than food. Horses are another matter and dogs... Well, we are here for their entertainment (humor).

I thought of the talking cow in Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. That a cow could talk and be perfectly happy to provide nourishment to another is just as insane as thinking that animal rights come ahead of human beings. Yet, we have to remember that our existence is dependent on our environment and ecosystem working correctly. If it is not balanced it does not work as well, and if we are out of balance we don't work very well.

I wonder how extreme people could become in demanding a lower birthrate. I don't think it has worked out so well for China.

By whose standard is "quality of life" determined? Too few humans and quality of life diminishes just as it could if there are too many. For moments of privacy and wide open spaces or a lot of opportunity for social interaction two different people would see quality of life differently.

RYviewpoint said...

Thomas: Those are all good points you make.

Life is a matrix, a network of interdependencies. Is it cruel that a child makes demands on a parent? Is it cruel that animals eat plants? Is it cruel that bacteria devour higher organisms? Is it cruel that humans eat other plants and animals? Nope. This is just the interconnections of nature. What we can do is make sure that we treat the animals with dignity (plants do have any feelings to hurt, so we can be quite indifferent to them, but should still be respectful). Animals require us to care for their feelings.

I got a chuckle out of your humour that we are here to serve the horses and dogs. But your point isn't far wrong. We are in an evolutionary relationship with these animals and while we shape them they shape us.

I took the "population boom" doomsayers quite seriously in the 1960s and 1970s. But I've come to see that they -- like all Johnny-one-note doom-and-gloomsters -- don't see that earth is a complex matrix of life. Sure we shouldn't overrun the planet, but what is the "appropriate" number of humans? The funny fact is that as we get more affluent we don't reproduce, so the future will be with less humans, not more.

As Yogi Berra said: It is tough to make predictions, especially about the future.

I would add: Before you get up on your soap box, know what kind of soap you are selling.

kanna said...

Ry,
Loved your closing on your comment. I may have to steal that one.
I must confess to days I am not so sure about humans at all.
Oh, if you want to talk about being here for animals, consider our two cats. They know the truth about "their" humans and "their" dog.